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New tower blocks for Woolwich riverside

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The last undeveloped section of Woolwich riverside looks finally set to be built upon. Greenwich’s planning board gave permission last night for the completion of the Mast Pond Wharf development on Woolwich Church Street, by the ferry terminal.

Walkers and cyclists who use the Thames Path will be familiar with the two existing towers, which have been in use for five years and are built on stilts because of the lack of flood defences on that stretch of river.

Now they are due to be joined by two more towers, providing 204 homes, a restaurant and office space. Developers will have to allow an archeological dig on the site first, since this land used to be part of the Woolwich royal dockyard.

The board voted 4-2 to allow the development, with Conservatives Dermot Poston and Geoff Brighty voting against because of concerns the towers would block the view of St Mary’s church from the river.

Written by Darryl

26 August, 2011 at 11:13 am

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  1. It’s good that the area is being redeveloped, but does this mean that yet another section of the Thames path will br closed off? I do hope not!

    Matthew Gough

    26 August, 2011 at 11:43 am

  2. I don’t know – I keep associating Thames Path closures with Greenwich, not Woolwich! The path is open through the existing development so I assume it’ll be maintained, but I’ve no idea about any temporary closure….

    Darryl

    26 August, 2011 at 12:07 pm

  3. I am not really sure what the thought is about planning in Woolwich. It’s all well and good to have wonderful private sector housing but if it leads to isolation from the main community and does not benefit the town centre it seems a bit pointless. Walking around Woolwich Town Centre is depressing now. I was right about the Game Computer store closure in Powis Street as the unit has been purchased by Deichmann Shoes to integrate with the former Body Shop Unit for trading as one large shoe shop. A planning application has gone in to Greenwich confirming this

    I think JD Sports has also closed because it appears to be being stripped out

    Wellington Street is a sea of boarded up buildings and it’s now quite intimidating. Add to that the closure of Priceless Shoes, the burnt out Blue Inc and boarded up T Mobile and it seems Woolwich Town Centre continues it’s long decline. Why anyone wants to live in a place that could not even attract the likes of Next which instead goes to Thamesmead is just beyond me.

    Gabriella Coscia

    26 August, 2011 at 12:14 pm

  4. For some it’s because they believe the marketing spiel from developers, and for others its because they have no great alternative I guess. I was reading up on these towers last night and found a website aimed at buy to letters and was going on about the high yields and returns, and what a great investment it is blah blah blah, and painting Woolwich as a utopia. Bizarrely they had the first McDonalds thing as a recommendation. Who would be impressed by that? And that was because Woolwich was seen as a typical and average English High Street. It’s far from that now. It was all too depressing to continue reading.

    fromthemurkydepths

    26 August, 2011 at 1:50 pm

  5. And, of course, it’ll be a long time before the west end of Powis Street, nearest these flats, gets up to scratch – if it ever does – especially with the new Tesco shifting Woolwich’s centre of gravity even further east.

    Darryl

    26 August, 2011 at 1:55 pm

  6. That end has a lot of problems, and the main one is that Powis Street estates have done little to it since buying much of it in 2001, except come up with some crap plans to demolish the attractive Co-op.

    Still some glimpses of hope are the plans to create a big store down there with a guaranteed shop on board apparently by combining some stores into one, and sainsbury’s recently submitted planning permission to improve their store and install more windows to open it up. There’s also a travelodge opening there.

    fromthemurkydepths

    26 August, 2011 at 2:54 pm

  7. Do you know what the latest is with the Art Deco Co-Op?

    I did hear recently the Gala Bingo hall has been bought by New Wine Church…

    Darryl

    26 August, 2011 at 3:54 pm

  8. I also heard the Gala Bingo has been bought by a church. As for the co-op – shops were mooted but it’s hard to see how, or when, that will happen.

    fromthemurkydepths

    26 August, 2011 at 4:45 pm

  9. For pete’s sake stop moaning. Actually the High Street is pretty god and has great diversity. The market is getting better( great fruit and veg). The shops are pretty busy and I see the place improving all the time (remember what it was like before the DLR?) so stop bleeting. If you dislike it so much move!

    Tony

    28 August, 2011 at 8:34 am

  10. Indeed, Tony, it’s *lovely*.

    Darryl

    28 August, 2011 at 12:15 pm

  11. Tony, no one was saying it’s dire. The only problem is that developers seem to mislead city dwellers in to some false realisation that Woolwich is a shopper’s mecc it is but for discount stuff

    Interestingly I have noticed that M and S appears to have cctv camera’s all over the shop and it appears quieter since they installed them may be a lot of the discounted stock used to get nicked.

    As for the C00P store there is now a hoarding on the wall proclaiming Woolwich back in business and that as well as regeneration of two lovely squares General Gordon et al Powis Estates start constructing the Travelodge on the COOP site as far as the planning application is concerned the building is not being destoryed it’s being re-clad in red terra cotta tiles.

    Warmsley and G Star that inhabit the old Burton and DP store opposite Peacocks (ex BHS) is also to be redeveloped. I had heard a retailer was signed up for 50,000 sq feet supposedly TJ Hughes – or Debenhams

    Gabriella Coscia

    28 August, 2011 at 6:33 pm

  12. PS The hoarding I am referring too is the one over the old Wetherspoons which is now painted blue and now has a poster on it proclaiming Woolwich is back in business. EG. New Tesco, New Travelodge contruction starting in the autumn duh duh duh

    Gabriella Coscia

    28 August, 2011 at 6:34 pm

  13. Finally over the last 4 years the shopping experience for the mid market in Woolwich has declined. Closure of Top Man / Top Shop, closure of Body Shop and Game, as well as Nationwide BS, and Ethel Austin and closure of Costa in Powis Street. I know there is one in the DLR but it’s tiny and no toilet. I have never heard of Costa closing a store before though I hear they moved because Powis Street put the lease up.

    As well as that Clintons, Claire’s and Fone House and M and S being converted from a main format store to an outlet and the closure of Fitness First now Fit Space. Clearly the regeneration hasn’t stopped the decline of the town centre well not yet. I will believe Woolwich is regenerated when it has a Pizza Express and some decent shops I mean of all places to get a Next store why could not it be Woolwich in stead of some retail park in Thamesmead which is where Next are opening.

    Gabriella Coscia

    28 August, 2011 at 6:40 pm

  14. planning premissionwas also granted for a 16 story tower block on top of the 2 fishing ponds in woolwich dockyard

    dave

    6 March, 2012 at 7:59 am

  15. Totally unrelated, but is anyone able to update a former resident on what the former Thames Poly buildings are now used for? Many thanks.

    Nigel Meek

    12 April, 2012 at 4:44 pm

  16. Does anybody know when they will start contruction? it has been a year and nothing

    oscar

    5 October, 2012 at 1:22 pm


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