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Cable car and cruise terminal get Greenwich’s green light

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Plans for a cable car and cruise liner terminal on the Greenwich peninsula have both been backed by Greenwich Council’s planning board – with the projects’ backers banking on them both being ready by next year’s Olympics.

Both schemes were unanimously approved by a panel of seven councillors – five Labour, two Conservative – at Woolwich town hall on Thursday evening.

Although Transport for London has yet to announce an operator for the proposed cable car, which will run from the current Dome coach park on Edmund Halley Way towards Royal Victoria DLR station, it said the cable car would add “resillience” to the peninsula’s transport connections, which have been blighted in recent years by closures to the Jubilee Line for upgrade works.

The peninsula was a “high priority” for TfL, it added.

But Friends of the Earth said the cable car needed further scrutiny, pointing out its path on the north bank of the Thames passed through a safety zone for London City Airport.

Supporting objector Alan Haughton, FoE’s Jenny Bates said the recent decision to allow the airport’s capacity to expand had meant the safety zone had grown in size. But TfL insisted neither City Airport nor the Civil Aviation Authority had objected to the scheme.

Pressed on fares, Transport for London’s representative would only say they would be “affordable”, and said that while they would accept Oyster cards, any decision to accept Travelcards would need the agreement of the National Rail companies serving London.

Pointing at figures mentioned in the planning document, Kidbrooke with Hornfair Labour councillor Hayley Fletcher criticised the poor service on the Jubilee Line, adding: “I’ve never stood at North Greenwich station waiting for the Jubilee Line thinking, ‘Oh, I must pay £3.50 to go to Royal Victoria instead’.”

There were questions about noise, too, but laughter when it was confirmed the motors power the 34 gondolas will be based on the north side of the Thames, in the borough of Newham.

Greenwich’s decision now means the cable car has been approved by three planning authorities, with Newham Council backing it last week and the London Thames Gateway Development Corporation endorsing it on Wednesday.

But while mayor Boris Johnson has said the cable car could be running by the Olympics in July 2012, his own London Development Agency – which has spent £1.2m on a project which was said to be at no cost to taxpayers – has cast doubt on the timetable.

The bigger scheme to affect Greenwich, however, was the cruise liner terminal, on part of the old Alcatel/STC cable works at Enderby’s Wharf. As well as the terminal – due to be up and running for the Olympics – the development includes 770 homes, a 251 room hotel, gym, skills academy, creche and commercial accommodation, as well as a river bus stop.

Planning board members were clearly excited about the scheme, with the consultation over the project praised. Abbey Wood Labour councillor Denise Hyland calling it a “world class” proposal.

“Coming in on a cruise ship and seeing that would be absolutely brilliant,”
she enthused, before adding, “someone asked if I could afford it – well, I’ll be coming in on a Thames Clipper.”

Eltham North Conservative Dermot Poston said it would be “wonderful to see it transformed in this way”.

But questions remained on the level of affordable housing at the development – which could range between 20% and 29%, depending on the grants available. Greenwich Council’s official policy is 35%, although developers may be able to secure affordable housing elsewhere in the area instead.

With the fiasco over the neighbouring stalled Lovell’s Wharf development in their minds, developers were also pressed on access to the Thames Path – which they say will be improved and joined by a public square under their plans – replying that they would be prepared to meet residents to discuss any issues. The path will be closed for the “minimum period possible,” they added.

Greenwich Council leader and planning board member Chris Roberts, who backed the scheme on television before it had been announced locally, was not present at the meeting.

Another high-profile development in the borough was also approved at Thursday’s meeting, with plans to build housing on the site of Eltham Baths getting unanimous backing.

Written by Darryl

28 January, 2011 at 1:14 am

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  1. I used to work at alcatel for years, I hope they retain some evidence of the sites importance in the development of the worlds telecoms industry. More importantly, the site will also loose the side gate that we used to use to sneak back onto site after a few to many at the cutty sark of a Friday lunchtime.

    Monkeyboy

    28 January, 2011 at 10:50 am

  2. [...] For further coverage of the planning committee meeting, see Darryl’s report at 853. [...]

  3. Great report 853
    I’m interested in how again it seems that London City Airports business is affecting developments in East London. While they did not send in an objection I have been informed by a good source that one of the airlines that uses LCY wanted to put in an objection due to safety concerns. They are worried that the angle of take off and landings will have to increase! This is of concern as London City Airport has a short runway. That’s all I’ve heard so far. Secondly it seems that the DfT think that the Public Safety Zone should have been looked at with more scrutiny. I know this as I contacted them on the issue. Also “I hope I’m not boring you all :-)” The Public Safety Zone map that TFL were using was from 2002. As we all know the airport has expanded twice since then and the PSZ has grown. So they are using incorrect data to make their decision.
    All in all this will make no difference as all parties want the cable car.

    I personally think it’s a great idea but would really like to see that all points are covered correctly and not half baked as they seem to be doing here…

    George

    28 January, 2011 at 2:35 pm

  4. [...] The proposals received the unanimous backing at last week’s meeting of the council’s Planning Board. [...]

  5. [...] met them at the Greenwich Council planning hearing last month, but our chat was interrupted by a furious Richard De Cani – Transport for [...]

  6. [...] remember there’ll be a cruise terminal a few hundred yards south of there next summer with housing and hotel developments to come; plus [...]

  7. [...] a tunnel across to Silvertown. The development masterplan for the peninsula has following the approval of the cable car scheme, which – if it actually gets built – will depart from what’s now a coach park to [...]

  8. [...] Wharf – in particular, Enderby House. Despite planning permission having been given for the cruise liner terminal development, very little has happened on site, apart from an invasion of vandals. The house actually looked [...]

  9. [...] cruise liner terminal received planning permission in January 2011. Planning documents said: “It is the applicant’s intention to deliver the cruise liner [...]

  10. [...] Properties promised to build a cruise liner terminal in east Greenwich in time for the Olympics. There’s been no sign of it yet, and so far has [...]

  11. [...] it gets to the sea, and large ships sail up the
    Thames to Central London (and potentially to a cruise liner
    terminal in Greenwich). Consequently bridges need to be wider and
    higher and  are more expensive to build, [...]

  12. [...] The other big question mark lies at Enderby’s Wharf, where developer West Properties – despite being allowed influence over Greenwich Council transport and tourism policies – still hasn’t lifted a finger on the cruise liner terminal site it was given permission to build over two years ago. [...]


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