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Greenwich’s red light zone could get relief

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Greenwich’s most pointless set of traffic lights could be finally coming down, 10 years after they started to disrupt journeys to and from North Greenwich. The maddening set of lights outside the Pilot Inn, which stop buses on the peninsula’s dedicated busway, was raised in Wednesday night’s meeting of Greenwich Council.

Kidbrooke with Hornfair councillor Graeme Coombes asked if the lights “serve any useful purpose”. “Bearing in mind the minimal amount of traffic turning into the Pilot Inn, especially during the morning rush hour, would it not be better to find an alternative traffic measure at this junction, so that buses travelling to North Greenwich aren’t left sitting at a red light, when there is, more often than not, no traffic turning into or out of the Pilot Inn,” the Conservative member added.

Replying for the council, deputy leader Peter Brooks said officials from the council and those from TfL were “reviewing the junctions within Greenwich Millennium Village as part of a safety investigation”. “This will include the Pilot Inn junction,” he continued in a written reply.

In later exchanges, Cllr Coombes called the lights “the worst example of some dodgy and ill-thought out street furniture” in the area. “I think we’re at harmony on these lights,” Labour’s Cllr Brooks said.

The lights are a legacy of the cock-up which is what used to be called the Millennium Busway and is now called the Pilot Busway – it was built for guided buses to serve the Millennium Dome (the single-deckers that used to work the 486 and its much-missed M1 predecessor). Unfortunately, the guided buses kept crashing, so the delicately-paved busway was tarmaced over and regular buses sent up and down it instead. What’s really needed is a full review of how buses go into and out of North Greenwich – they’re badly disrupted by gig traffic at the Dome, and a year doesn’t seem to go by without a temporary closure of the bus station.

But with a chance of a change outside the Pilot, who knows what might happen? Tell ‘em what you think, and hopefully we’ll all get quicker journeys to and from North Greenwich sooner or later.

(Thanks to Rob at greenwich.co.uk for letting me use his photo above.)

Written by Darryl

26 February, 2010 at 4:35 pm

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  1. As a self-consciously law-abiding cyclist, I baulk (this is posh speak for ignore) at that set of traffic lights. I’d love to know who all these millennium traffic lights were bought from – some of them defy belief.

    marmoset

    26 February, 2010 at 9:19 pm

  2. You don’t know how pleased I am to hear that somebody has those utterly-unnecessary North Greenwich traffic lights under review.
    (Actually, you probably do)

    diamond geezer

    26 February, 2010 at 9:43 pm

  3. Congratualations on a true ‘sub’s headline.’

    Fnarr…

    TGP

    27 February, 2010 at 9:29 am

  4. [...] by, there is a sensible proposal in Greenwich – to remove the hated lights by the Pilot pub, River Way which do nothing except slow down bus journeys. But there’s no further proposals to improve [...]

  5. [...] in Canning Town. The guided busway-which-never was, built on the wrong side of the road to ensure a pointless set of traffic lights outside the Pilot pub. And while the dual carriageways which carve the area up predate the [...]


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